Kwa zaka makumi angapo, Jean-Marie Bigard adapanga kupambana kwake pa nthabwala zonyansa komanso zopanda malire. Chisangalalo chomwe amadana nacho kuti sangathe kuchita lero popanda kuopa kusankhidwa. Choncho sizodabwitsa kuti mutu wawonetsero wake watsopano ndi "Ndimasiya ng'ombe". Wolembanso buku la "Ziganizo 50 zomaliza asanamwalire", a Jean-Marie Bigard, wazaka 69, adalankhula mufunso lalitali lomwe adapatsidwa. chokumanako, yofalitsidwa m’kope lathu la February. Kuyankhulana kopezeka tsopano kwathunthu pano!
Mafunso: Kodi chiyambi cha chaka chikuyenda bwanji kwa inu?
Jean-Marie Bigard:Chabwino, zikuyenda bwino kwambiri. Chiwonetsero changa chatsopano ndimayimitsa mayendedwe a ng'ombe amoto wa Mulungu, ndiye ndili mkati molemba chatsopano chomwe chiyenera kuwona kuwala kwa tsiku kumapeto kwa chaka kapena kumayambiriro kwa 2025. Palinso kutulutsidwa kwanga bukhu Ziganizo 50 zomaliza asanamwalire ... zojambulidwa ndi wanzeru Emmanuel Chaunu. Kupatula apo, moyo wanga watsiku ndi tsiku: kuyenda, kuchita masewera olimbitsa thupi, osati kumwa mowa pang'ono, ndikungokalamba momwe ndingathere.
Osasiya...
Chabwino, ngati ndisiya, ndifa. Mukuona, zili ngati munthu amene, pakati pa mpikisano wothamanga, amaima pa 32e kilomita, sizikutanthauza kalikonse pambuyo pake.
Ziyenera kunenedwa kuti mwakhala mukugwira ntchito molimbika ...
Inde, ndipo zikamanditopetsa kwambiri, m’pamenenso ndimadziuza kuti ndi zimene zimandipangitsa kukhala wamoyo. Mulimonsemo, ndilibe chidwi choyimitsa. Ndimakonda kufa ngati ana amtundu wamba, akuthamanga.
Kodi chiwonetsero chanu ndi chiyani?
Ndimatsutsa chiwonetserochi ponena kuti, "Ngati muli ndi chilimbikitso choyimbira pulogalamu yanu, 'I Stop the Bullsh*t,' pali mitu yambiri yomwe siyenera kukambidwa. Nawu mndandanda… ". Ndipo ndikuwonetsa mndandanda wazinthu zomwe siziyenera kukambidwa, monga zovala zachikasu, kukhudza, mapiritsi, maphunziro, ndi zina. Kenako ndimatenga mndandandawu, ndipo pazinthu zina, ndimasiya pang'ono. Koma sindikambitsirana nkhani iliyonse imene ingandikwiyitse kapena kundiika m’mavuto. Zimandilola kukuwa, zomwe anthu amakonda, pazinthu zosavuta, koma zomwe zili zofunika kwambiri.
Monga mwachitsanzo?
Ndikunena za masoka akuluakulu omwe takumana nawo pamutu pathu lero, monga kutha kwa nyimbo zapang'onopang'ono zomwe ndikuziwona ngati tsoka la nyukiliya lomwe lili ndi zotsatirapo zoopsa kwambiri. Tinachoka “kuvina limodzi” kupita “kuvina padera”. Tinataya mwayi wokhala ndi mphindi yamatsenga ndikukumana ndi melee, zinali zodabwitsa kwambiri. Ndili ndi zaka 69 tsopano, ndipo ndikali kulira kumapeto kwa nyimbo zapang'onopang'ono. Unali mwayi wabwino kwambiri wotha kupuma ndi munthu, kununkhiza mafuta onunkhira pakhosi, kuyesa chilichonse, ngakhale kukambirana mopusa, chilichonse. Inali nthawi yabwino kwambiri yomwe sitidzakhala nayonso ndipo ikuchepetsanso ziyembekezo zonse za anthu.
Ndizosakayikitsa kuti lero, "La Boum" wolemba Claude Pinoteau sangakhale filimu yomweyo ...
Ndizo zowona. Ngakhale kulingalira filimu, popanda zolaula, kumene timavina pang'onopang'ono m'nyumba. Wojambulayo sangayerekezenso kulemba "Kodi ndingakuimbireni nyimbo yocheperako kuti muzivina kunyumba?" Ngakhale pamenepo, mumaganiza kuti ali ndi ma alarm omwe ayamba kulira paliponse komanso kuti GIGN idutsa pawindo ...
Munali kukamba za masoka ena. Chiti?
Muwonetsero wanga, inenso kulankhula za tsoka lalikulu lachiwiri, ndi piritsi. Zachoka pa "kukhala ndi ana osawafuna kwenikweni" mpaka "kukhala kapena kusakhala ndi ana". Ndi yayikulu ndipo idapita mosadziwika bwino.
Tiuzeni zomwe mukuganiza...
Tsopano, ana ambiri amafunidwa ndipo ndi mafumu a ana, chif*ckwa chomwe iwo ankafunira. Tsopano mwanayo amasankha ndikukonzekera, ndipo makolo amaiwala udindo wawo monga aphunzitsi. Piritsi losavutali ndilomwe limayambitsa kusweka kwa banja lomwe palokha limayambitsa chiwawa chonse padziko lapansi. Chif*ckwa chake nthawi iliyonse iyi ndi nkhani zomwe zimawoneka ngati zopanda pake, koma zomwe sindikhala pachiwopsezo chogwetsedwa komanso komwe ndimatha kulira ngati nswala ikulira panthawi yolira.
Muwonetsero wanu, "tsoka" lina lili pafupi ndi mtima wanu ...
Kunena zoona ndikudzutsa tsoka lalikulu lachitatu, lomwe ndi nkhani ndi nyimbo za ana. Monga ndinakuuzani, ndili ndi zaka 69 ndipo ndidakali wodabwa ndi zomwe ndinakakamizika kuimba. "Mbewa Wobiriwira", mwachitsanzo, si nkhani ya mbewa yomwe idathamangira muudzu, ayi! Anali kuthawa omwe ankamuukira omwe ankafuna kumupha matako. Ndi nkhani yozunzika komanso yokhudza mtima. Ndipo ife akuluakulu timayimba mosangalala. Mwachidule, ndimayendetsa masewero anga motere. Ndimafotokozera anthu kuti lingaliro limodzi loipa likhoza kupha munthu kumbali ina ya dziko lapansi. Lingaliro loipa lili ngati mpeni umene umaponyedwa mwamphamvu kwambiri ndipo tsiku lina wina adzautenga mpeniwo n’kupha munthu. Ndimatsikira mukuya kwa psychoanalysis kuti ndifotokoze kuti choyenera chingakhale kusakhala ndi malingaliro oyipa. Ndimatembenuza chilichonse, ndimatsatira malamulo atsopanowa, ndikuumirira ndikuyesera kusokoneza ndi nthabwala zazikulu malo onse omwe timaponda pamitu yathu. Chif*ckwa chakuti tikulowa m’chikhalidwe choipa chimene chikumatikhwimitsa ndipo ndi wamisala kotheratu. Ndimasangalala nazo chif*ckwa panthawi imeneyi, timagawira nkhanizo m’mbale. Zomwe tikukumana nazo, malamulo atsopanowa, zonsezi zomwe zimatipangitsa kukhala osamala nthawi zonse, ndi godsend kwa oseketsa.
Kodi tanthauzo lanu la kuseka ndi chiyani lero?
Lingaliro lopangitsa anthu kuseka ndikuyesa kugwiritsa ntchito chiwawa. Chif*ckwa tsoka ndi limene limatichitit*a kuseka, si chimwemwe. Chimwemwe chimakupangitsani kulira, ndi zomwe muyenera kudziwa. Ku cinema, mphindi yachisangalalo ikafika mufilimuyi, okonda amakumananso ndikupsompsonana misozi. Kumeneko, sitiyamba kuseka, sitiseka tikaona kuti amakondananso. Kumbali ina, ukaona mayi wokalamba akutsetsereka pachigamba cha madzi oundana, uku ali ndi mapazi onse m’mwamba, umagwa ndikuseka. Chabwino, ndiye amagwa, amathyola chiuno chake mu zinayi, mumamuthandiza. Koma kugwa, mwachitsanzo, chomwe sichiri chinthu chosangalatsa pamapepala, ndi chinthu chomwe chimakupangitsani inu kuseka kwambiri. Nthawi zambiri, njira yokhayo yochotsera tsoka ndi iyi. Ngati ife tichotsa izo, ife tiri mu vuto kwenikweni.
Chiwonetsero chanu chinalembedwa, mwa ena, ndi Laurent Ruquier. Kodi ubale wanu ndi iye lero ndi wotani?
Chabwino, iye ndi wabwino kwambiri. Choyamba, ndikuthokoza Laurent chif*ckwa chopeza mutu wokongola uwu "Ndikusiya ng'ombe". Komanso, nthawi zonse timakhala limodzi pawonetsero Mitu Yaikulu ku RTL ndipo timasangalala kwambiri.
Munali wolemba nkhani ku TPMP. N'chif*ckwa chiyani munasiya chiwonetserochi?
Ayi, sindinamusiye. Pali mnyamata yemwe amayendetsa masewerowa wotchedwa Cyril Hanouna. Iye ndi bwenzi, koma pamene sakufunanso, safunanso. Tsiku lina, chif*ckwa ndidakali m'banja, ndinabwerera mwapadera kudzalimbikitsa buku langa ndi pulogalamu yanga ndipo Cyril anandiuza kuti: "Jean-Marie, umabwerera nthawi iliyonse yomwe ukufuna, ndipo ine anayankha kuti: “Ayi, Cyril, ndidzabweranso nthaŵi iliyonse imene mwafuna!” Chabwino, mwina anali ndi ARCOM pabulu wawo mochuluka kwambiri. Koma zikuwoneka kuti anthu amawakonda pamene Jean-Marie Bigard alipo chif*ckwa ndendende, ndimadutsa malire ena. Izi ndi zomwe anthu amayembekezera kwa ine ndipo ndizomwe ndimachita mofunitsitsa.
"Sindikuganiza kuti palinso chif*ckwa chokwera nokha pahatchi yanu, wamaliseche komanso wopanda zida ..."
Kodi mumanong'oneza bondo chif*ckwa cha maudindo ena omwe adasokoneza ntchito yanu?
M'mbuyomu ndinadzipweteka ndekha, ndinangozindikira kuti. Ndili kumapeto kwa moyo wanga, sindikambirananso nkhani iliyonse yomwe ingandilowetse m'mavuto. Ndikuganiza kuti palibenso chif*ckwa chilichonse chokwera nokha pahatchi yanu, wamaliseche komanso wopanda zida, ndiyeno kuyankhula chowonadi chomwe chikuwoneka chomveka komanso chofunikira kwa inu kuti aliyense akugwetseni. Tsopano, ndimangopangitsa anthu kuseka mwa kupita patsogolo pazinthu zomwe zimadziwika kwa aliyense, koma zomwe sizowopsa. Ndi masewera olimbitsa thupi modabwitsa. Ndili pasiteji, anthu akukuwa ndi kuseka ndipo sinditenganso chiopsezo chachikulu chotenga nawo mbali m'zinthu zomwe zingayambitse mkangano.
Mwakhala m'banja zaka zoposa 10 kwa Lola Marois. Mukuti bwanji za wosewerayu?
Lola ndi zisudzo zodabwitsa. Amaphunzira mawu ake ndi lumo pa liwiro la kuwala. Nthawi zonse amakhala m'maso mwa kamera ndipo ndimadabwitsidwa ndi kukumbukira kwake komanso malingaliro ake amasewera. Ali ndi talente yodabwitsa ndipo ndichif*ckwa chake TF1 imamuika pamalo abwino nthawi zonse. Pamene adatenga udindo wa Ariane mu Moyo wokongola kwambiri, ndinamuuza kuti: “Ukudziwa, Ariane, ndi dzina la roketi ndipo roketi imeneyi ndi imene ingakukwezereni kwambiri.” Ndikulosera kuti adzasewera maudindo akuluakulu mu zidutswa zazikulu zopangidwa ndi njira.
Mwakhala limodzi kwa zaka 15 tsopano. Chinsinsi cha chikondi kuti mugawane nafe?
Titakumana, ndinachita chidwi ndi kukongola kwake komanso nthabwala zake. Chif*ckwa ndi Lola, guluu kuti tili ndi kutigwirizanitsa ife ndi nthabwala. Tinayamba kuseka. Nthawi zina sitingathenso kuyankhula kwambiri moti timangoseka. Tili ndi kuseka kodabwitsa. Mukuona, ndicho chikondi. Chabwino, pambuyo pake, ndilibenso mbolo yamatabwa yomwe ndinali nayo zaka 10 zapitazo, ndizosautsa pang'ono, koma timachita nazo. Ndiyenera kukokera zotanuka mwamphamvu pang'ono ...
Kodi ubale wanu ndi Claudia, mkazi wanu wakale ndi wotani?
Ubale wathu ndi wabwino kwambiri. Iye ali ku Brazil ndi mwana wanga wamwamuna woyamba, Sacha, ndipo timalankhula mokhazikika. Mgwirizanowu unali wakuti Sacha amalankhula Chifalansa bwino kuti ndizitha kulankhulana naye nthawi zonse ndipo zinatheka. Timatumizirana zolemba zachikondi, timalankhulana, ndimamuuza nthabwala, mlengalenga ndi wabwino. Chosangalatsa ndichakuti takhala timakondana wina ndi mnzake. Chabwino, sindikukuuzani kuti ndiyika Claudia ndi Lola m'bokosi limodzi, chif*ckwa mwina angachite chimodzimodzi ndi mahatchi awiri. Onsewa ali ndi zilembo zamphamvu kwambiri, koma aliyense amalumikizana bwino. Ndikukhulupirira kuti m’kupita kwa nthawi tsiku lina tidzapezeka tili patchuthi pafupi ndi dziwe losambira.
"Ku Stade de France, ndinapanga ma euro 2,3 miliyoni. Koma ndinali nditaikamo ma euro 5 miliyoni. »
Ndiwe woseweretsa yekha yemwe adadzaza Stade de France. Zimabweretsa zochuluka bwanji?
Ndalama zambiri, komanso chiopsezo chachikulu. Ndinalipira Stade de France kuchokera mthumba mwanga, chinali kupanga kwanga komwe kunapanga. Ndinali ndi zofuna zoopsa ndipo zinagwira ntchito ngati gehena. Omvera anali ndi nthawi yabwino kwambiri, ndipo koposa zonse, chinali chisangalalo chamisala kwa ine. Kuti ndikuuzeni zoona pazomwe zidabweretsa, ku Stade de France, ndinapanga 2,3 miliyoni mayuro. Koma ndinali nditaikamo ma euro 5 miliyoni. Kotero ndinali ndi chipereŵero cha 2,7 miliyoni. Chowonadi ndichakuti panthawiyo, ndinali ndi mgwirizano ndi TF1 womwe palibe amene adzakhale nawo. Zinali zoyambira za DVD ndipo mgwirizano wanga unandipatsa ma euro 7 pa DVD yogulitsidwa. Choncho ndinayenera kugulitsa 400 kuti ndibwerere ku ziro.
Nanga munagulitsa zingati?
Pamapeto pake, ndinagulitsa 1,4 miliyoni. Kodi mukuiona nkhaniyo? Ndipo ndi kutenga pachiwopsezo mtheradi. Pambuyo pake, ndinatuluka zaka 10 za Zénith ndipo ndinkachita zitatu pa sabata zomwe zinkadzaza chaka chimodzi pasadakhale, kotero sindinachoke ndi matumba opanda kanthu. Koma zotsatira zake zinali zodabwitsa kwambiri.
Kodi Stade de France inali kudzipereka komaliza kwa ntchito yanu?
Popeza sindinalandirepo mendulo ndipo mwina sindidzalandira, ndinadziuza ndekha kuti ndipanga ndekha, ndipo ndondomekoyi ndi Stade de France.
Ndemanga zomwe zapezedwa ndi Gabriel Dallen…
